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  •  Well, not quite (2+ / 0-)
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    The electoral future, as defined by demography, belongs to the party who wins non-white voters (unless of course, the white vote becomes monolithically Republican, which seems unlikely)
    If the Republicans lost the "non-white" voters by 45-55, and kept their hold on the white voters, they would be in good shape. The monolithic hold that Democrats have on African-American voters suggests that similar holds are indeed possible for other groups.  

    Finally, there is always the possibility that groups will end up being dramatically redefined.  There is the quaint nineteenth century phrase "the colored races of Europe", and well, a century and a half later that division and the thinking behind it has been flushed down the historical drain.  The world can change, not always in the ways you might expect.

    We can have change for the better.

    by phillies on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 10:06:32 AM PST

    •  GOP Needs Uneducated White Voters (5+ / 0-)

      Highly-educated whites are not nearly as willing to vote for the GOP as poorly-educated whites. Young whites are not as willing to vote for the panderers to racism as old whites.

      The GOP is the party of mammon. They mock what Jesus taught.

      by freelunch on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 10:24:16 AM PST

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      •  I used to think that too (4+ / 0-)
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        but studying the exit polls, that appears to be a myth. We have a slight edge among under-educated, and high school grads, drop behind in college educated and then pick up a slight edge with post-grad educated.

        so not all the rubes are voting against their best interests.
        and not all the college grads are elitist Liberals, thus smashing the RW myth that colleges are a hot bed of Liberal Indoctrination(TM)

        wondering why this is? is it a regional thing, like the Southern White racists and Evangelical Liberty U types throwing off the overall white college grad vote percentages? or what?

        have a hunch, that this correlates with income levels on a superficial basis. if so, unfortunately may serve to validate (wrongly IMHO) the meme "the poor voting for their handouts/gifts!!!" for the chattering class.

        suggests also the upper/middle income college professionals (remember the Yuppies?) have turned their backs on the altrusim we had in the 60s-70s and chosen the grab mine now route...instead of handing the ladder down to help others.

        I'd love to be pointed to more granular data and/or research on this if anyone knows any good sites.

        no man is completely worthless, he can always be used as a bad example.

        by srfRantz on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 10:57:02 AM PST

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        •  I'd love to see how many of the "college-educated" (0+ / 0-)

          GOP voters have their diplomas from religion-affiliated educational institutions. I'd be willing to bet that a significant percentage of of the college-educated GOP voting bloc have their degrees from colleges with courses like Creationism 101 and The Liberal Assault on Christianity.

        •  No, there is a huge number of people... (0+ / 0-)

          ....who have college educations who identify with the Lundbergs of the world...that it would be greeeeeeat if the rich got a tax cut so the buttlicking will work.

          9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

          by varro on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 07:42:33 PM PST

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      •  not true (0+ / 0-)

        GOP gets affluent voters, dems get less affluent voters, by and large. education is less effective an indicator of political alignment than income.

    •  If the Republican party was getting non- (1+ / 0-)
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      base voters at the same percentage they were getting during the Bush years, the Democratic party would be in huge trouble.

      Don't forget that.

    •  Hispanics will be as white 50 years from now.... (0+ / 0-)

      ....as Italian-, Greek-, and Slavic-Americans are today.

      Pat Buchanan echoes Madison Grant, in that immigrants bring "crime and idiocy" - when the most ambitious of other countries venture overseas and work as roofers and agricultural workers while Anglos curse Obama.

      9-11 changed everything? Well, Katrina changed it back.

      by varro on Sun Nov 25, 2012 at 07:41:07 PM PST

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