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You started with several wooded acres way back when. Wood heat seemed like the obvious solution. Things went well for awhile, but lately its becoming harder and harder not to admit that you are going to run out of trees. In fact, after you cut enough for this year, you will basically be out of decent sized trees. Of course, theres that giant shade tree in the back yard. That could give you enough wood for a whole winter, so its not time to panic. However, the tree does add a lot of charm to the property. Hmmm. Do you think now might be the time to switch to a different type of heat, or would it be smarter to burn up the shade tree, and then deal with the problem?

ANWR is not going to save us. We are the richest country in the world. If we can't afford to protect our last unspoiled lands, how can we criticize the Brazils of the world for extracting their resources? Its a matter of principle.  

Originally posted to demokerryat on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 05:51 PM PST.

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  •  I was surprised... (4.00)
    ...that JK didn't make a stronger play in the midwest states for clean, renewable ethanol and bio-diesel technologies.  Ohio could be to our energy future as Texas was to our energy past, because they have the agricultural resources to grow corn and soybeans for conversion to ethanol and bio-diesel, plus the industrial infrastructure to tool up for the necessary technology, plus, a skilled labor base that could sure use the jobs that would necessarily be created.

    He'd have won the election, too.

    A proud member of the reality-based community!

    by roxtar on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 05:54:32 PM PST

    •  I agree (4.00)
      Not matter what you think about the feasability of biofuel at the very least it could have been used the same way Republicans use policy--to mobilize important voting blocs.
    •  Run the numbers (none)

      corn... for conversion to ethanol

      Ethanol's great for pandering to Midwestern farmers (and both parties normally pander to this bloc for all they're worth), but as an energy independence solution, it's useless. The current ethanol production cycle requires about 2.5 BTU worth of usable petroleum energy in order to yield 1 BTU worth of usable ethanol energy.

      Got two tens for a five?

  •  Nice (none)
    Good perspective.

    Socially libertarian, Fiscally conservative, 100% Democrat. Cheney unity!

    by No One No Where on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 05:54:43 PM PST

  •  Don't you (4.00)
    take your guns and invade the farmer in the next town which still has a few trees left?  

    Seriously - we need to make the argument that pro-envionment is pro-business.  We are going to end up either building or buying the technology, and frankly I would rather be selling green to China than buying it from Japan.

    Pro-environment policies also benefit sportsmen, another group we could probably reach with the right frame.

    They ask for trust but somehow I've got serious doubts / Open up the window let the bad air out

    by Catriana on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:21:14 PM PST

  •  This may be changing (none)
    What's more, while a powerful, ideologically driven minority -- led, sadly, by the Bush administration -- continues to insist that energy security is simply a question of drilling in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge (ANWR) or browbeating OPEC, outside the White House, and certainly outside the Beltway, there's a growing push to build a fundamentally new energy system. Thus, while the Bush administration dithered on climate change and the future of energy, individual states, like California and New York, enacted their own alternative energy policies and even sued utilities over carbon dioxide emissions. The corporate world, once a stalwart opponent of any policy reform, has become startlingly progressive. Toyota and Honda are busily rolling out hybrid cars. Agriculture and insurance firms warn of the future costs of oil-price swings and climate change. And energy companies like BP and Shell, eager to profit in the new energy order, are developing new fuels and technologies to help reduce oil use and emissions.

    from Over a Barrel by Paul Roberts in Mother Jones Nov/Dec 04.

    To disagree with three-fourths of the public is one of the first requisites of sanity.--- the ever-quotable Mr. Wilde

    by baggy on Wed Nov 10, 2004 at 06:35:09 PM PST

  •  I'm fully in agreement (none)
    with your basic point.
    However, to extend the metaphor, you don't cut down trees for this year, you cut them for next year (green wood won't burn). So if you're down to looking at the living trees on your property for use this year, you've managed your heating needs very badly ..
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