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The NRA is in our local public school. They sponsor programs which promote sport shooting. The pinched finances of many public school systems make this possible; they welcome private financing for extra-curricular activities. The problem with all of this, however, is that it allows this group to promote its own agenda, while at the same time showing a kinder, gentler face than its radical agenda exposes.

My nephew recently came home from school with a bunch of NRA t-shirts. He got them in various sizes for the people he loves. What can you say to that? He also had a lot a leaflets and bumper stickers, things like that.

He signed up for skeet shooting. He enjoys it very much. I have no problem with that.


My nephew told me about a recent event at his home. He is sixteen years old and was home alone after returning from school (both parents at work). After he was home for awhile, he saw a stranger pull in the driveway and walk across the front yard. His first thought was to get his gun. It was the water meter reader. We have a privatized water system here and the man's company truck had broken down, so he was using his own vehicle (the meter readers don't have uniforms, just an ID badge). Fortunately, nothing truly terrible happened, but this incident disturbed me greatly. I told my nephew, very calmly, that I believed what he did to be wrong. He calmly informed me that he would shoot anybody who he thought was a threat (my nephew is six foot four). What the hell? Where did he get this shit?


Originally posted to paulex on Thu Jul 03, 2014 at 10:13 PM PDT.

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  •  Tip Jar (12+ / 0-)

    "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." --Lily Tomlin

    by paulex on Thu Jul 03, 2014 at 10:13:35 PM PDT

  •  Sorry. (7+ / 0-)

    My last diary was a bit more successful than I intended.

    So I am posting something that I know will not make the rec list, but it is important to me.

    I am close to my nephew and I did sit him down and explain WHY that I thought that he was wrong. I explained that he could have phoned 911 or ran away. I explained that if he did shoot someone, that he would have to live with that the rest of him life.

    I hope that he heard me.

    "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." --Lily Tomlin

    by paulex on Thu Jul 03, 2014 at 10:25:30 PM PDT

  •  You can never get the NRA out of our schools (1+ / 0-)
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    Who do you think are some of the proudest members of the NRA?  

    Our military.

    And, who do you think has the right, protected by law, to recruit in our schools?

    That's right.  Our military.

    If you want to get gun propaganda out of schools, you could start there.

    •  I was a military recruiter. Get the NRA out? (3+ / 0-)
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      a2nite, Joy of Fishes, cjtjc

      The military is not the only organisation that recruits in schools, of course. Colleges, tech schools, local businesses, all manner of groups recruit.

      Not every person in the military (or former military members) is a strident supporter of the NRA. Not every member of the military owns a personal firearm. It is a broad paintroller that assumes that all military persons are firearms enthusiasts or conservatives.

      As for where the kid got this stuff, it may very well not have been the NRA, though there is an easy way to check that.

      It could be from anywhere: from other schoolmates, from television coverage, all sorts of places.

      The way to find out what is going on at the shooting sessions would be to have him record them, or go yourself.

      Recording would be better, because a parent present might cause the presenter to soften his tone, and you want to catch the real agenda (if there is one).

      Either those, or insist that a faculty member be present for such meetings to ensure that politicisation is not going on (but that could run afoul of the I and XIV Amendments if all groups are not treated equally).

      "A Conservative is a fellow who is standing athwart history yelling 'Stop!'"—William F. Buckley, Jr.—Founder of the conservative policy magazine "National Review"

      by Village Vet on Fri Jul 04, 2014 at 12:30:05 AM PDT

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      •  Or, just ask the kid yourself (1+ / 0-)
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        Joy of Fishes

        who suggested reaching for a firearm as a first approach. A direct question might lead to a direct answer, and then a solution to the problem of where it came from.

        "A Conservative is a fellow who is standing athwart history yelling 'Stop!'"—William F. Buckley, Jr.—Founder of the conservative policy magazine "National Review"

        by Village Vet on Fri Jul 04, 2014 at 12:32:47 AM PDT

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      •  Yes, but... (2+ / 0-)
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        WakeUpNeo, jessbell911

        I stated that the NRA was giving the kids propaganda. And they were. And it was extremely political. And creepy.

        We should not allow this in our schools. Period.

        Do not defend these bastards.

        "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." --Lily Tomlin

        by paulex on Fri Jul 04, 2014 at 12:37:21 AM PDT

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        •  There are commenters on this site (2+ / 0-)
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          a2nite, paulex

          who have promoted the idea that the NRA and related organizations should be doing the same in every school across the country.

          All in the name of "training" --- question is, training for what?

        •  Get another opinion! (1+ / 0-)
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          Absolutely, what g'insurance said:

          "If you have kids in a school with the NRA teaching them, have a non-gun person take a look at what they teach."

          I came up with a list last night for someone that was asking a similar question--

          "Gun lovers here have said repeatedly that we are irrationally afraid of guns. That is a dangerous falsehood they paint to maintain the mystery. One should have caution, it's a healthy thing to have, just as one should be cautious of drunk drivers and hot burners on stoves.

          "Shooting one doesn't much demystify, a little, demystifying should include:

          *Showing how utterly stupid Angelina Joile and Brad Pitt looked in that movie, no injury, no messed hair, that is call out the propaganda

          *Showing how guns are used in fictional plots to fill in space

          *Showing how guns are used in certain kinds of behaviors (aggression, threats, standowns), but not suitable for others (diplomacy, dialogue), TV and movies use them a lot because they're sensational, but that's all they are

          *The extent that someone can look really stupid with a gun (I'm thinking the bangers, wannabes, brandishers, all the fakery we have these days) and finally

          *Some way to introduce the medical and biological harm and courses of action should it come to that"

  •  NRA Teaching Gun Safety (1+ / 0-)
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    i saw an old tree today

    For me the worst thing about the NRA's community programs is their way of teaching gun safety.  They teach people to want guns, to handle guns and to be comfortable around guns and then tell them a few rules such as:

    Don't point a gun at anything you don't want to shoot, or assume every gun is loaded.  

    Those are great for shifting the blame onto a person who causes an accident; but they are utterly ineffective, given human nature, at preventing accidents.  Many of the stars of GunFAIL are NRA safety course graduates.

    I ran a factory for 35 years with a good safety record and I can assure you that we had a lot more respect both for dangerous machinery and for human limitations than the NRA does for guns.

    If you have kids in a school with the NRA teaching them, have a non-gun person take a look at what they teach.

    Mandatory Gun Insurance would provide for victims, encourage safety and not be an excessive burden on gun owners. How to do it at Gun Insurance Blog. I also make posts at Huffington as Tom Harvey.

    by guninsuranceblog on Fri Jul 04, 2014 at 03:31:41 PM PDT

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