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What do malpractice stressed MD's an screwed patients, veteran's waiting too long for medical care, the recent Hobby Lobby case and much of the emerging problem with people's info differing form officlal record in sign ups have in common? They are the result of our not adopting Single payer. Way too many decisions are made in a state of medical payment stress. if you do not sue, you will be stuck with the bill. If you work for a conservative Christian, you might have to fork over considerable moneys men do not spend on birth control.  If you are a veteran, you are pissed you are thrown into the tender mercies of any part of the US health care ( non) system. All these are a result of medical care not bein g a right. So me say the government cannot do anything right. It is hard to have a worse pattern of failure than the for profit insurance market, which kills people ( due to lack of funding for care) as a matter of functioning properly. Medicaid is surprisingly efficient in percent of moneys spent on administration versus how much on patient care. Medical care payment is the place where the private market fails.

Dr Krugman gives a good example as to why the market fails with health care funding. Insurance companies ( Insco's) are not competing on who can provide better service at a better price. They are competing as to who can have more clients paying and not filing large claims and who can kick off anyone who is going to need long term, expensive care. Just because they are tasked with doing the public good experience with Medicare D shows that for profit Insco's do not stop being for profit insurances companies dedicated to making a profit. this is incompatible with public health We would solve so many problems if Americans were willing to learn form other countries as they have learned form us. Unfortunately we are becoming more xenophobic and less willing to look at the experiences of other countries. Stupid Americans.

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  •  One major concern that I have... (0+ / 0-)

    ...is what has happened to Karina Hansen and Justina Pelletier.   Research funds and social programs around disability and healthcare, seem to incentivize the taking away of civil liberties to the point of literally locking people up, forcing unwanted medical treatment on them, denying them treatments that they are in need of, denying second opinions, denying their right to free speech, denying their right to assembly, to communicate with and visit with their families.    In the U.S., this happened in the context of CPS (another program I have grave concerns about), and in the context of a large medical hospital - Boston Children's Hospital -- that receives public funds, that has a cozy relationship with CPS, and in the context of a legal environment which allows research to be conducted on foster children, and the context of federal programs offering research grants.   Federal "incentivess" seem to be inherent in many of these problems.  "incentives" to foster and adopt children out instead of returning them to their parents, "incentives" to conduct research on kids, laws that allow research to be conducted on foster kids, "incentives" to ensure shorter waiting lists.  It seems like these "incentives" are really incentivizing fraud, corruption and violations of civil liberties.

    I had a bad experience with another Children's Hospital, and when you look at what happened at the V.A., it starts to make you wonder if it's a commonality among large publicly funded institutions.

    It is truly chilling, the forcing of treatment on some, and the denial of treatment of others, and makes me wary of the size and power of some "social" programs.  The increasing militarization of our schools, another social program, the guardposts at the front doors, the police roaming the halls, the handcuffing and jailing of children as young as six, the criminalization of truancy, the daytime curfews, is alarming.     It seems to be less a "service" to citizens, and more of a "compulsion".  I am gratefor for those who have fought to protect the right to say 'no' to the schools.    I am for education, but against forcing kids and families into an unhealthy situation with no possibility of escape.

    We need protections against overly large and powerful social programs that just run right over people.   I'm in favor of access to healthcare for all, but in practice, if it looks like what happened to Justina Pelletier, then I have to reconsider.

    Don't get me wrong.  I support Obamacare.  But, I'm worried at what I'm seeing.  Very worried.

  •  and there we have it (1+ / 0-)
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  •  it's just a matter of time (0+ / 0-)

    until the dysfunctional and unpopular obamacare program is dismantled.

    The sad thing is that it won't be replaced with a modern, civilized and fully funded single payer system- it will be replaced with a deregulated nightmare focused totally on sustaining the health of corporations- not people.

    •  Yep, it'll happen... (0+ / 0-)

      just after you get Mitt reelected for his second term.

      "...we live in the best most expensive third world country." "If only the NEA could figure out all they have to do is define the ignorance of the next generation as a WMD..." ---Stolen from posts on Daily Kos

      by jestbill on Fri Jul 04, 2014 at 06:13:52 AM PDT

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  •  If we really want single payer... (1+ / 0-)
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    we can encourage Bernie Sanders to run as a (D).

    https://www.credomobilize.com/...

    Health care should be a right, not a privilege.

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